#60859: "First player advantage: alternative start option?"
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Gedetailleerde beschrijving
• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de foutboodschap die je op je scherm ziet, indien van toepassing.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Leg uit wat je wilde doen, wat je deed en wat er gebeurde
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Safari v15.3
• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Safari v15.3
• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Safari v15.3
• Wat stond op het scherm toen je geblokkeerd was (Leeg scherm? Een deel van de spelinterface? Foutboodschap?)
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Safari v15.3
• Met welk onderdeel van de regels is geen rekening gehouden bij de BGA-versie?
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Is de inbreuk op de spelregels zichtbaar in de spelherhaling? Indien ja, bij welk zetnummer?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Safari v15.3
• Welke spelactie wilde je uitvoeren?
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Wat probeerde je te doen om deze spelactie te laten optreden?
• Wat gebeurde er toen je dit probeerde te doen (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Safari v15.3
• In welke fase van het spel deed het probleem zich voor (wat was de huidige spelinstructie)?
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Wat gebeurde toen je deze spelactie probeerde (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Safari v15.3
• Beschrijf alsjeblieft het probleem met de beeldweergave. Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Safari v15.3
• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Safari v15.3
• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
Of course there are not enough plays and no statistics yet.
But just looking at the game and the fact that it ends immediately when any player has placed 15 flowers: it seems very likely that the first player might have a significant advantage.
There is a BGG post about it also, that proposes an alternative start:
boardgamegeek.com/thread/2814687/simple-variant-removes-first-player-advantage
Seems like an option that would at least be worth discussing with the publisher?
At the least I would suggest to keep a statistic on BGA indicating if the 1st player won or not.
Then you would be able to check if there really is a significant 1st player advantage after many plays.
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Safari v15.3
Rapportgeschiedenis
That sounds like a great idea!
Unfortunately, the rule on BGA is to stay as close as possible as the base game. I'll share the suggestion with the publisher and see if they're open to that adaptation.
I'll add the statistics on the 1st player as well, to see if it makes a huge difference or not.
Regards,
PiratJack
I have added a statistic to know who won. It should help identify whether there's a balance problem or not. We'll see in a few days / weeks!
Regards,
PiratJack
Sorry, I haven't been very active on this. I reached out again to the publisher, to see if they would allow me to do this. I now have a more direct contact with them, but I can't guarantee any delay on the answer (my contact may even have left the company, it's been a year since I talked with him last time).
Regards,
PiratJack
Dit rapport aanvullen
- Andere tafel ID / zet ID
- Loste F5 het probleem op?
- Kwam het probleem meerdere keren voor? Altijd? Willekeurig?
- Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
