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#46950: "Light Speed Starting Player assigned incorrectly."
#46950: "Light Speed Starting Player assigned incorrectly."
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Gedetailleerde beschrijving
• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de foutboodschap die je op je scherm ziet, indien van toepassing.
The player who spent the fewest credits starts.
This game & others had the player who spent the most credits as starting player.• Leg uit wat je wilde doen, wat je deed en wat er gebeurde
Yes, when starting player assigned• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v92
• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
The player who spent the fewest credits starts.
This game & others had the player who spent the most credits as starting player.• Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
Yes, when starting player assigned• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v92
• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
The player who spent the fewest credits starts.
This game & others had the player who spent the most credits as starting player.• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v92
• Wat stond op het scherm toen je geblokkeerd was (Leeg scherm? Een deel van de spelinterface? Foutboodschap?)
The player who spent the fewest credits starts.
This game & others had the player who spent the most credits as starting player.• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v92
• Met welk onderdeel van de regels is geen rekening gehouden bij de BGA-versie?
The player who spent the fewest credits starts.
This game & others had the player who spent the most credits as starting player.• Is de inbreuk op de spelregels zichtbaar in de spelherhaling? Indien ja, bij welk zetnummer?
Yes, when starting player assigned• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v92
• Welke spelactie wilde je uitvoeren?
The player who spent the fewest credits starts.
This game & others had the player who spent the most credits as starting player.• Wat probeerde je te doen om deze spelactie te laten optreden?
Yes, when starting player assigned• Wat gebeurde er toen je dit probeerde te doen (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v92
• In welke fase van het spel deed het probleem zich voor (wat was de huidige spelinstructie)?
The player who spent the fewest credits starts.
This game & others had the player who spent the most credits as starting player.• Wat gebeurde toen je deze spelactie probeerde (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
Yes, when starting player assigned• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v92
• Beschrijf alsjeblieft het probleem met de beeldweergave. Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
The player who spent the fewest credits starts.
This game & others had the player who spent the most credits as starting player.• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v92
• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
The player who spent the fewest credits starts.
This game & others had the player who spent the most credits as starting player.• Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
Yes, when starting player assigned• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v92
• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
The player who spent the fewest credits starts.
This game & others had the player who spent the most credits as starting player.• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v92
Rapportgeschiedenis
22 aug 2021 2:16 • TrinaCat • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Has happened in several games, but not all games.
26 sep 2021 22:39 • TrinaCat • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
204833463 Player who spent the most was assigned first player, instead of player who spent the least.
3 mrt 2022 19:00 • HotRails • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
This happened in our game. I believe it is because we created the game using "rematch." Instead of making the player who spent the least credits the first player (game rules), it was automatically assigned to the next player in line instead (rematch default). boardgamearena.com/table?table=195960613
31 mrt 2022 4:26 • rich937 • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
table=254899397
The person who spent all their credits was the first player.
The person who spent all their credits was the first player.
5 apr 2022 4:27 • Fermax • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Same: 256091762 (Light-speed variant)
Two players started with 6 coins remaining, but a player with 0 coins was chosen as the start player.
Two players started with 6 coins remaining, but a player with 0 coins was chosen as the start player.
14 apr 2022 18:45 • HotRails • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
This happened again in my last two games. In table=258959433, I spent 15, everybody else spent 14, but I was selected as the first player. In boardgamearena.com/table?table=257538038, two players spent 14, two spent 15, but one of the ones who spent 15 was selected as the first player. Remember it should be who SPENT the least, not who IS LEFT with the least.
16 apr 2022 2:29 • BeerInHand • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Happened twice today. Impacted the game.
Table #259350113 is the second example.
Table #259350113 is the second example.
23 apr 2022 1:19 • equipollence • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
261295315
Happened to us. Person who spent the most went first. Perhaps it was because two of us (not the person who went first) tied, and it didn't include just the two of us who tied in the tie-breaker determination?
Happened to us. Person who spent the most went first. Perhaps it was because two of us (not the person who went first) tied, and it didn't include just the two of us who tied in the tie-breaker determination?
23 apr 2022 1:25 • HezikRoshi • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
boardgamearena.com/6/spacebase?table=261295315
Happened to us in this game linked above.
What happened is: there were 2 players (HezikRoshi and equipollence) who "spent the least", remaining with 13 gold. But the starting player was selected as the player who had the highest deployed sector (who also spent the most).
I think there is a misinterpretation of the rules in "Light-Speed Variant" on page 28.
"The player who kept the most money goes first. In the case of a tie, the player with the highest sector card goes first, and if still tied roll to see who goes first."
I think what is implemented is: in the case of a tie it looks at all players to see who has the highest deployed sector, when it should only be evaluating the tied players.
The wording is in the rules is unclear, but the interpretation that is should be evaluated amongst the tied players makes more sense to me.
Happened to us in this game linked above.
What happened is: there were 2 players (HezikRoshi and equipollence) who "spent the least", remaining with 13 gold. But the starting player was selected as the player who had the highest deployed sector (who also spent the most).
I think there is a misinterpretation of the rules in "Light-Speed Variant" on page 28.
"The player who kept the most money goes first. In the case of a tie, the player with the highest sector card goes first, and if still tied roll to see who goes first."
I think what is implemented is: in the case of a tie it looks at all players to see who has the highest deployed sector, when it should only be evaluating the tied players.
The wording is in the rules is unclear, but the interpretation that is should be evaluated amongst the tied players makes more sense to me.
24 apr 2022 1:23 • JRthewinner • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
I believe they are giving the start player to who has the highest sector instead of the least money spent.
29 apr 2022 19:15 • CrazyCasey • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
I experienced this same situation at Table #263237949.
3 mei 2022 11:03 • dukepuccini • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
also happened in this game. green should have started boardgamearena.com/7/spacebase?table=264326590
4 mei 2022 7:16 • Roxster • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
It happened incorrectly in this game boardgamearena.com/table?table=264574646
T1MM should have been the 1st player, it picked me instead and I had spent all my gold.
T1MM should have been the 1st player, it picked me instead and I had spent all my gold.
6 mei 2022 22:33 • GawainNO • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
id=46950
HezikRoshi hits the nail on the head. When there's a tie, it looks at ALL players instead of just the tied players, and then assigns it to whoever has the highest sector card (often the same as the one who spent the most, but that is just correlation)
HezikRoshi hits the nail on the head. When there's a tie, it looks at ALL players instead of just the tied players, and then assigns it to whoever has the highest sector card (often the same as the one who spent the most, but that is just correlation)
23 mei 2022 23:49 • StormShadowDLJJ • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Table #269811062
I should have been the starting player as I had 8 credits remaining but gilbe became the starting player with 0 credits.
I should have been the starting player as I had 8 credits remaining but gilbe became the starting player with 0 credits.
9 jun 2022 9:54 • briid92 • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
This is a serious issue
20 jun 2022 21:23 • gordoz • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
table 277131450
example of the error
the wrong player started first because of this..
example of the error
the wrong player started first because of this..
23 jun 2022 22:48 • cosmosis • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
table 277947627
Happened again. I think the code probably doesn't exclude players who spent more from randomly deciding the tie?
Happened again. I think the code probably doesn't exclude players who spent more from randomly deciding the tie?
13 jul 2022 6:21 • Epox • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Happened again in this game.
This happens when there is a tie for the most coins.
The rule is, whoever played the highest sector card of the tied players gets to go first.
However, it is giving the start to whoever played the highest sector card, even if they weren't involved in the tie.
This happens when there is a tie for the most coins.
The rule is, whoever played the highest sector card of the tied players gets to go first.
However, it is giving the start to whoever played the highest sector card, even if they weren't involved in the tie.
24 jul 2022 21:12 • b414213562 • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Happened at table 286010701 with light-speed variant - According to the rules "The player
who kept the most money goes first.", but this did not happen. Spending the most money and going first seems game-breaking.
who kept the most money goes first.", but this did not happen. Spending the most money and going first seems game-breaking.
1 aug 2022 7:32 • EMazur • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
This bug keeps happening. It happened today again in table:
boardgamearena.com/table?table=287974096
I have seen this bug ~10 times. It happens more often when playing with 3 people, but today is the first time I notice it on a 4 player game. I don't know what causes it.
Personally it affects my strategy a lot when it happens because I often forgo some cards to ensure first player status if I need to buy a desirable card. It is specially worse when the desirable first card is very cheap for example the Merbold sector 7 arrow to sector 8 (like in this game). Since the Merbold cost only 4 it can easily be snatched by other players even if they did not deserve to be the first player.
boardgamearena.com/table?table=287974096
I have seen this bug ~10 times. It happens more often when playing with 3 people, but today is the first time I notice it on a 4 player game. I don't know what causes it.
Personally it affects my strategy a lot when it happens because I often forgo some cards to ensure first player status if I need to buy a desirable card. It is specially worse when the desirable first card is very cheap for example the Merbold sector 7 arrow to sector 8 (like in this game). Since the Merbold cost only 4 it can easily be snatched by other players even if they did not deserve to be the first player.
7 aug 2022 23:24 • riverpa • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
It appears that the starting player is assigned randomly, not counting how much money is left for each player
16 aug 2022 4:09 • Regai • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
I have noticed this issue as well. I believe that HezikRoshi describes the issue correctly and that is how I would expect it to work.
20 aug 2022 0:28 • TurangaLeela • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Table 292990729
Two players had 7credits and one player had 1credit yet the player w one credit was assigned first player
Two players had 7credits and one player had 1credit yet the player w one credit was assigned first player
26 aug 2022 22:52 • victorl • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
This problem occurred in the game I just played: 294900310.
One player spent all their starting credits and was selected as first player. (No other players spent all their starting credits.)
One player spent all their starting credits and was selected as first player. (No other players spent all their starting credits.)
22 sep 2022 23:02 • Mageyoulook • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
This error is occurring specifically when multiple players are tied for spending the fewest credits. The tiebreaker seems to be evaluating ALL players instead of just evaluating the tied players. Happened in 302274869 as well.
28 sep 2022 6:10 • TrinaCat • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Apparently never going to be addressed. happened again table 303726705
30 sep 2022 0:12 • kamarainen • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Here's another example, table 304205807. Two players spent all 15, while the other two spent 12 each.
The two people that spent all 15 each bought a card in the 9 spot, which was highest. They both had a 6 card, then the tie breaker was a card in the 5.
Of course the problem was that it should have only been the 2 people that spent 12 using the tie breaker, not all 4 (or the two people which spent everything.)
The two people that spent all 15 each bought a card in the 9 spot, which was highest. They both had a 6 card, then the tie breaker was a card in the 5.
Of course the problem was that it should have only been the 2 people that spent 12 using the tie breaker, not all 4 (or the two people which spent everything.)
16 okt 2022 20:53 • jimbo_extreme • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Table: 309055244
Happens fairly often.
Happens fairly often.
21 okt 2022 5:39 • polaris89 • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
It appears - as I expect at least one commenter has already noted - that the tie-breaker condition for equal amount of left-over credits between the players who spent the least is getting applied to *all* players instead of only to the players participating in the tie; this can cause someone who spent all their credits - or just "more than at least 2 others" - to become player 1, unexpectedly.
21 okt 2022 5:41 • HaVoCLaD • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Throw in boardgamearena.com/archive/replay/221018-1000/?table=310330956&player=92434135&comments=84193172;
two players with 8 left after the start, one with 6 and one with 0.
The player with 6 was chosen as first player.
two players with 8 left after the start, one with 6 and one with 0.
The player with 6 was chosen as first player.
25 okt 2022 3:55 • jimbo_extreme • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
To all the devs. please read this. I figured it OUT!!!
It is not a bug. It is just a tie breaker. If there is a tie on starting credits, the game will choose someone random out of ALL players instead of just the players who tied.
Can you please make it so it chooses one of the tied players?
It is not a bug. It is just a tie breaker. If there is a tie on starting credits, the game will choose someone random out of ALL players instead of just the players who tied.
Can you please make it so it chooses one of the tied players?
1 nov 2022 16:59 • mozboz • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Happened in table 313727370 - as mentioned somewhere else, the two people who'd spent the least were tied, and the player after them went first (who had spent more)
9 nov 2022 13:37 • mozboz • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Just happened on boardgamearena.com/8/spacebase?table=316089295 - again there were two players tied for most credits and first player to go first was neither of those.
21 nov 2022 8:51 • sfoozy • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
happened in my game (and have seen it a few times before). boardgamearena.com/7/spacebase?table=319610938
23 nov 2022 13:37 • Shazzypaz • Bug is opgelost:
Fixed in today's deployment. Starting player for light speed variant now selected based on remaining gold, then highest deployed sector among tied players.
17 dec 2022 19:41 • AMerryHeart • Bug is opgelost:
Bug is not fixed. The Arena game repeatedly fails to choose starting player with fewest credits spent.
17 dec 2022 20:05 • Shazzypaz • Bug is opgelost:
AMerryHeart - I just reviewed your 4 most recent games, and did not see any problems with first player selection. In one game, you were tied with another player, and they happened to win via the random selection. It might have been confusing because you were awarded 2 gold coins based on your starting position, so it might have looked at a quick glance as if you had more money remaining. Tables I looked at: 327473877, 327470571, 327451253 and 327443700.
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