#44292: "Log when infection discard pile is shuffled and placed back onto deck + count of cards"
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de foutboodschap die je op je scherm ziet, indien van toepassing.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Leg uit wat je wilde doen, wat je deed en wat er gebeurde
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v91
• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v91
• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v91
• Wat stond op het scherm toen je geblokkeerd was (Leeg scherm? Een deel van de spelinterface? Foutboodschap?)
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v91
• Met welk onderdeel van de regels is geen rekening gehouden bij de BGA-versie?
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Is de inbreuk op de spelregels zichtbaar in de spelherhaling? Indien ja, bij welk zetnummer?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v91
• Welke spelactie wilde je uitvoeren?
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Wat probeerde je te doen om deze spelactie te laten optreden?
• Wat gebeurde er toen je dit probeerde te doen (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v91
• In welke fase van het spel deed het probleem zich voor (wat was de huidige spelinstructie)?
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Wat gebeurde toen je deze spelactie probeerde (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v91
• Beschrijf alsjeblieft het probleem met de beeldweergave. Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v91
• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v91
• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
Counting cards/knowing how many infection cards just went back onto the top of your deck alone can be a huge piece of information in Pandemic. Knowing which cards these were is way more powerful than knowing how many alone, and serves as a cornerstone in some of the planning at higher difficulties -- inspection of this discard pile right before it's shuffled usually yields very useful information (knowing what, and exactly which threats are about to be shuffled in)
For example, imagine two epidemics close to each other but on different turns, with four Infection cards in discard. Knowing that there were only 4 Infection cards in the discard pile as you go to resolve the shuffle of an Epidemic (intensify) may affect several decisions on the next couple turns. If your infection rate is now three, and the city infected via the Epidemic card was not one of the three drawn this turn you KNOW it is the next card, this is VERY useful information that is easily missed in a turn-based game.
Unfortunately in a turn-based game the other players are called back to the table to see an Epidemic AFTER the discard pile is shuffled, therefore lack information about what was just shuffled. When playing turn-based especially when you've got multiple on the go it can be very hard to track this; the information could in theory be re-constructed from logs, but this is mentally taxing.
Therfore this idea has two parts:
1. The core suggestion: Logging how many cards were just shuffled onto the discard would benefit this.
2. As an extension to this: Logging for easy reference which infection cards were just shuffled and placed upon the deck allows for better decision-making, especially at higher difficulty.
The extension may seem contentious about whether it's really okay to do or offers to much information, I offer the following thoughts on this:
1. Make it optional for this to be logged? I'd say this is FAR more relevant for turn-based games than real-time. Having this as a game setup option allows a group to decide if they want this level of information.
2. When playing this game in real life collectively the players are able to generally remember what just got shuffled and placed atop the infection draw pile; this in my opinion is a QoL improvement to bring parity between IRL games and digital.
It also occurred in the writeup of this a potential solution to this problem is actually just bringing players back to the table before step three of an Epidemic card is resolved, and allowing them a chance to view the discard right before it's shuffled. I will log this as a seperate idea so it may be voted on independantly.• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v91
Rapportgeschiedenis
======CURRENT LOG======
[Replay last moves]
[Cube] on Baghdad
[Cube] on Baghdad
[Cube] on Baghdad
Infection in Baghdad
Infection Rate is increasing
New Epidemic!
Dispatcher receives Miami
Dispatcher draws 2 card(s)
======SUGGESTED LOG======
[Replay last moves]
7 Infection cards placed on top of infection deck
Infection discard was shuffled.
[Cube] on Baghdad
[Cube] on Baghdad
[Cube] on Baghdad
Infection in Baghdad
Infection Rate is increasing
New Epidemic!
Dispatcher receives Miami
Dispatcher draws 2 card(s)
======EXAMPLE FOR EXTENDED IDEA ======
[Replay last moves]
7 Infection cards placed on top of infection deck
Infection discard was shuffled.
Contents of the infection discard pile:
1. Baghdad
2. Example
3. Example
4. Example
5. Example
6. Example
7. Example
[Cube] on Baghdad
[Cube] on Baghdad
[Cube] on Baghdad
Infection in Baghdad
Infection Rate is increasing
New Epidemic!
Dispatcher receives Miami
Dispatcher draws 2 card(s)
Both are in service of allowing more information to turn-based players about what was in the discard pile that just got shuffled as this information is easily missed.
In a game played IRL we will always use the privilege provided to us by the rules ("Players may freely examine either discard pile at any time") to ensure we know, and then track what is being shuffled and placed on the Infection draw pile
Dit rapport aanvullen
- Andere tafel ID / zet ID
- Loste F5 het probleem op?
- Kwam het probleem meerdere keren voor? Altijd? Willekeurig?
- Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.