#94317: "Trading Fee not paid when player later gained enough money"
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de foutboodschap die je op je scherm ziet, indien van toepassing.
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• Leg uit wat je wilde doen, wat je deed en wat er gebeurde
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v109
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een schermkopie van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je een hosting-service voor afbeeldingen naar keuze gebruiken (bijvoorbeeld snipboard.io) om deze te uploaden en de link hier te kopiëren/plakken. Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v109
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• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v109
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• Wat stond op het scherm toen je geblokkeerd was (Leeg scherm? Een deel van de spelinterface? Foutboodschap?)
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v109
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• Met welk onderdeel van de regels is geen rekening gehouden bij de BGA-versie?
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• Is de inbreuk op de spelregels zichtbaar in de spelherhaling? Indien ja, bij welk zetnummer?
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v109
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• Welke spelactie wilde je uitvoeren?
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• Wat probeerde je te doen om deze spelactie te laten optreden?
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
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• Wat gebeurde er toen je dit probeerde te doen (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v109
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• In welke fase van het spel deed het probleem zich voor (wat was de huidige spelinstructie)?
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. -
• Wat gebeurde toen je deze spelactie probeerde (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
Yes, visible, 3rd round and 4th (2nd to last) round, in the demand phase (when trading fees were acquired) and movement phase (when the dividends were received)
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v109
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• Beschrijf alsjeblieft het probleem met de beeldweergave. Als je een schermkopie van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je een hosting-service voor afbeeldingen naar keuze gebruiken (bijvoorbeeld snipboard.io) om deze te uploaden en de link hier te kopiëren/plakken.
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v109
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een schermkopie van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je een hosting-service voor afbeeldingen naar keuze gebruiken (bijvoorbeeld snipboard.io) om deze te uploaden en de link hier te kopiëren/plakken. Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v109
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• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
In the rules, if the players do not have the funds to pay for the trading fee, they must keep the card, placing it face-up in front of them. Any trading fees held this way must be paid immediately upon receiving enough money.
In the game, during round 3 a player (JustinJR), after paying for the bid, had no money left to pay for the one $3k trading fee included in the stockpile he just acquired. Game noted that the trading fee was not paid, to be paid later. According to rules, the unpaid trading fee had to be displayed face up in front. There was no indication in the game showing the unpaid trading fee of a player.
Later in the round, same player got 2k of dividends, still not enough money to pay for the 3k trading fee. No money was deducted to pay part of 3k, so it's still outstanding and the player got to bid 1k on some stock piles next round.
In the next round (2nd to the last), with 2k on hand, same player got another 3k trading fee. Again, fee was kept to be paid later (game mentions this), but when the player got 6k of dividends and had 8k total cash, the accumulated trading fees (of 6k) were not paid and the game goes to the last round.
In another issue of trading fees, since these fees are revealed face up when acquired, the game should mention the breakdown of trading fees being paid when there are 2 or more trading fees (received as face down card). As of now, the game just puts the total amount of trading fees paid, without mentioning what kind of trading fees were they. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v109
Rapportgeschiedenis
So, the bug then (which violates the game rules), is that the trading fees were not paid immediately when player gained enough money through dividends. The fees were only paid when the player gained money by selling shares shares. Also, unpaid trading fees were not visible to other players, when the game rules state that they should be revealed/placed in front of the player.
Move 106 - player received 2k from dividends, no money was deducted to pay for the accumulated 3k fees.
Move 131 - player acquired another 3k of fees, kept to be paid later
Move 143 - player received 6k dividends, yet no money was deducted to pay for the 6k accumulated trading fees
Move 166 - player sold 10k worth of shares, only then 6k of accumulated trading fees were paid.
Not paying the accumulated fees immediately when money became available (even from dividends) as the rules require allowed player to bid on stockpiles in the succeeding rounds, forcing other players to bid higher. This would not have happened if the player had no money left.
Dit rapport aanvullen
- Andere tafel ID / zet ID
- Loste F5 het probleem op?
- Kwam het probleem meerdere keren voor? Altijd? Willekeurig?
- Als je een schermkopie van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je een hosting-service voor afbeeldingen naar keuze gebruiken (bijvoorbeeld snipboard.io) om deze te uploaden en de link hier te kopiëren/plakken.
