#86291: "Allow peeking in phase B (as an option)"
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Gedetailleerde beschrijving
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de foutboodschap die je op je scherm ziet, indien van toepassing.
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
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This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
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In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
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As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
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• Leg uit wat je wilde doen, wat je deed en wat er gebeurde
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v102
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een schermkopie van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je een hosting-service voor afbeeldingen naar keuze gebruiken (bijvoorbeeld snipboard.io) om deze te uploaden en de link hier te kopiëren/plakken. Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
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In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v102
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• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v102
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• Wat stond op het scherm toen je geblokkeerd was (Leeg scherm? Een deel van de spelinterface? Foutboodschap?)
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v102
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• Met welk onderdeel van de regels is geen rekening gehouden bij de BGA-versie?
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
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• Is de inbreuk op de spelregels zichtbaar in de spelherhaling? Indien ja, bij welk zetnummer?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v102
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• Welke spelactie wilde je uitvoeren?
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
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• Wat probeerde je te doen om deze spelactie te laten optreden?
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• Wat gebeurde er toen je dit probeerde te doen (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v102
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• In welke fase van het spel deed het probleem zich voor (wat was de huidige spelinstructie)?
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
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• Wat gebeurde toen je deze spelactie probeerde (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v102
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• Beschrijf alsjeblieft het probleem met de beeldweergave. Als je een schermkopie van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je een hosting-service voor afbeeldingen naar keuze gebruiken (bijvoorbeeld snipboard.io) om deze te uploaden en de link hier te kopiëren/plakken.
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v102
-
• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een schermkopie van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je een hosting-service voor afbeeldingen naar keuze gebruiken (bijvoorbeeld snipboard.io) om deze te uploaden en de link hier te kopiëren/plakken. Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v102
-
• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
First, I'm fully aware that the rule doesn't allow this.
Page 7:
You can take only the top card of a discard pile, and you cannot look through the discard piles.
So we might need clearance from the designer to allow this as an option.
-------------
This being said, looking through comments on BGG, it seems to be a rather common house rule.
More importantly, removing memory elements from a game is a very common adaptation on BGA because of turn-based mode.
You can expect people to remember things in a 30min game that you can't expect them to remember it when playing 1 turn every 2 days...
It pushes people into writing things down or computing the current situation by adding up what's in the log or do a "replay from" etc..
If you can rebuild hidden information via the log or "replay from" then the rule is in a way already broken and we should just display the info so as to put everyone back on the same footing. (Provided that "memory" isn't an quintessential component of the game in which case you probably simply do not allow turn-based mode for that game)
Take for instance what was done for the bags in "Automobiles".
With everything I explained above, I'm not even sure that we need author permission for this. But I fully understand if you feel that you do.
-----------------------
In my opinion, the ideal would be a 3 values option:
- No Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed
- Peeking allowed in turn-based mode
The point of the 3 option being that it can be set as the chosen option for Arena mode if the gurus want it.
-----
As for the actual implementation, the simplest would probably be that hovering on a discarded card would show all the cards in the stack (from left to right representing cards from bottom to top).
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v102
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- Als je een schermkopie van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je een hosting-service voor afbeeldingen naar keuze gebruiken (bijvoorbeeld snipboard.io) om deze te uploaden en de link hier te kopiëren/plakken.
