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#56504: "Swiss System repeatedly pairs the top-ranked player against the bottom-ranked player"
#56504: "Swiss System repeatedly pairs the top-ranked player against the bottom-ranked player"
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Er heeft iets niet correct gewerkt tijdens het gebruik van de website (niet tijdens het spel)
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Er heeft iets niet correct gewerkt tijdens het gebruik van de website (niet tijdens het spel)
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Gedetailleerde beschrijving
• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de foutboodschap die je op je scherm ziet, indien van toepassing.
not applicable• Leg uit wat je wilde doen, wat je deed en wat er gebeurde
Please look at this tournament: boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=104287
It's "Swiss system" with "try to prevent same players to be opponents twice". I am Mathew5000 and have been at the top of the standings for almost the whole tournament. There's only 18 players (after 2 withdrew) and 20 matches.
For the last four matches of the tournament ("Step 17" through "Step 20") I was paired against Amelie1605 every time. That should not happen because "try to prevent same players to be opponents twice" is checked. But it especially should not happen because Amelie1605 is at the bottom of the standings while I am at the top of the standings; in Swiss System, I should be playing other players near the top of the standings, not the player at the bottom four times.
This is very unfair to the other players.• Welke browser gebruik je?
irrelevant
• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
not applicable• Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
Please look at this tournament: boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=104287
It's "Swiss system" with "try to prevent same players to be opponents twice". I am Mathew5000 and have been at the top of the standings for almost the whole tournament. There's only 18 players (after 2 withdrew) and 20 matches.
For the last four matches of the tournament ("Step 17" through "Step 20") I was paired against Amelie1605 every time. That should not happen because "try to prevent same players to be opponents twice" is checked. But it especially should not happen because Amelie1605 is at the bottom of the standings while I am at the top of the standings; in Swiss System, I should be playing other players near the top of the standings, not the player at the bottom four times.
This is very unfair to the other players.• Welke browser gebruik je?
irrelevant
• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
not applicable• Welke browser gebruik je?
irrelevant
• Wat stond op het scherm toen je geblokkeerd was (Leeg scherm? Een deel van de spelinterface? Foutboodschap?)
not applicable• Welke browser gebruik je?
irrelevant
• Met welk onderdeel van de regels is geen rekening gehouden bij de BGA-versie?
not applicable• Is de inbreuk op de spelregels zichtbaar in de spelherhaling? Indien ja, bij welk zetnummer?
Please look at this tournament: boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=104287
It's "Swiss system" with "try to prevent same players to be opponents twice". I am Mathew5000 and have been at the top of the standings for almost the whole tournament. There's only 18 players (after 2 withdrew) and 20 matches.
For the last four matches of the tournament ("Step 17" through "Step 20") I was paired against Amelie1605 every time. That should not happen because "try to prevent same players to be opponents twice" is checked. But it especially should not happen because Amelie1605 is at the bottom of the standings while I am at the top of the standings; in Swiss System, I should be playing other players near the top of the standings, not the player at the bottom four times.
This is very unfair to the other players.• Welke browser gebruik je?
irrelevant
• Welke spelactie wilde je uitvoeren?
not applicable• Wat probeerde je te doen om deze spelactie te laten optreden?
Please look at this tournament: boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=104287
It's "Swiss system" with "try to prevent same players to be opponents twice". I am Mathew5000 and have been at the top of the standings for almost the whole tournament. There's only 18 players (after 2 withdrew) and 20 matches.
For the last four matches of the tournament ("Step 17" through "Step 20") I was paired against Amelie1605 every time. That should not happen because "try to prevent same players to be opponents twice" is checked. But it especially should not happen because Amelie1605 is at the bottom of the standings while I am at the top of the standings; in Swiss System, I should be playing other players near the top of the standings, not the player at the bottom four times.
This is very unfair to the other players.• Wat gebeurde er toen je dit probeerde te doen (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
irrelevant
• In welke fase van het spel deed het probleem zich voor (wat was de huidige spelinstructie)?
not applicable• Wat gebeurde toen je deze spelactie probeerde (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
Please look at this tournament: boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=104287
It's "Swiss system" with "try to prevent same players to be opponents twice". I am Mathew5000 and have been at the top of the standings for almost the whole tournament. There's only 18 players (after 2 withdrew) and 20 matches.
For the last four matches of the tournament ("Step 17" through "Step 20") I was paired against Amelie1605 every time. That should not happen because "try to prevent same players to be opponents twice" is checked. But it especially should not happen because Amelie1605 is at the bottom of the standings while I am at the top of the standings; in Swiss System, I should be playing other players near the top of the standings, not the player at the bottom four times.
This is very unfair to the other players.• Welke browser gebruik je?
irrelevant
• Beschrijf alsjeblieft het probleem met de beeldweergave. Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
not applicable• Welke browser gebruik je?
irrelevant
• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
not applicable• Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
Please look at this tournament: boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=104287
It's "Swiss system" with "try to prevent same players to be opponents twice". I am Mathew5000 and have been at the top of the standings for almost the whole tournament. There's only 18 players (after 2 withdrew) and 20 matches.
For the last four matches of the tournament ("Step 17" through "Step 20") I was paired against Amelie1605 every time. That should not happen because "try to prevent same players to be opponents twice" is checked. But it especially should not happen because Amelie1605 is at the bottom of the standings while I am at the top of the standings; in Swiss System, I should be playing other players near the top of the standings, not the player at the bottom four times.
This is very unfair to the other players.• Welke browser gebruik je?
irrelevant
• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
not applicable• Welke browser gebruik je?
irrelevant
Rapportgeschiedenis
5 jan 2022 21:26 • Mathew5000 • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Screenshots of pairings and standings: www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-KXMWsD/
5 feb 2022 11:56 • mrdoctor • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
It seems like Swiss system tournaments make the matching algorithm go weird once it gets through one cycle of its normal attempt to not match people twice, and will then just match the same players multiple games in a row with no changing it up
20 jan 2023 4:23 • Mathew5000 • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Discussed in the Forums in December 2022 / January 2023 here:
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28338
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=28338
5 jun 2023 5:36 • BBT • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=154738
Happened in rounds 14+ of this tournament
Happened in rounds 14+ of this tournament
4 okt 2023 17:28 • Superluminal • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
I can attest to this issue. I am currently tied at the top of the leaderboard in a tournament that has been ongoing for over three months. This tournament features 3-player Tash-Kalar Deathmatch games. The pairing policy "Try to prevent the same players from being opponents twice" is activated for this event. Despite having played against each participant once, I've found myself repeatedly matched against the same players. My username is superluminal. You can verify the pairings here:
boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=184247
From games 12 to 16 (current game), I've been paired with one player 4 out of the 5 times. Another player has been my opponent in 3 out of these 5 games. Notably, both of these players are at the bottom of the leaderboard. I'm currently sharing the first place with rogernunn1. I fail to understand the logic of pairing players from the top of the leaderboard with those at the bottom, particularly towards the tail end of the tournament. This is the point where top contenders should ideally be pitted against one another to determine the final winner.
Rogernunn1 faces a similar issue. He's been matched with the same player for the fifth consecutive game, a player who seems to have abandoned the tournament and has not done any moves since a long time.
It's deeply frustrating to experience such irregularities, especially after dedicating so much time to a long tournament. I have been desperately waiting for a challenging match against rogernunn1, eager for a good fight. It's only logical that those at the top of the leaderboard should play against one another to determine the ultimate winner. Ideally, players like rogernunn1 and I should be paired, or at the very least, against others with high scores. I suspect that players at the lower end of the leaderboard aren't enjoying this any more than we are, continually finding themselves outmatched by the top contenders.
boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=184247
From games 12 to 16 (current game), I've been paired with one player 4 out of the 5 times. Another player has been my opponent in 3 out of these 5 games. Notably, both of these players are at the bottom of the leaderboard. I'm currently sharing the first place with rogernunn1. I fail to understand the logic of pairing players from the top of the leaderboard with those at the bottom, particularly towards the tail end of the tournament. This is the point where top contenders should ideally be pitted against one another to determine the final winner.
Rogernunn1 faces a similar issue. He's been matched with the same player for the fifth consecutive game, a player who seems to have abandoned the tournament and has not done any moves since a long time.
It's deeply frustrating to experience such irregularities, especially after dedicating so much time to a long tournament. I have been desperately waiting for a challenging match against rogernunn1, eager for a good fight. It's only logical that those at the top of the leaderboard should play against one another to determine the ultimate winner. Ideally, players like rogernunn1 and I should be paired, or at the very least, against others with high scores. I suspect that players at the lower end of the leaderboard aren't enjoying this any more than we are, continually finding themselves outmatched by the top contenders.
17 okt 2023 10:33 • Arxij • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Another example with the same issue /tournament?id=185083#stage_display
17 okt 2023 10:34 • Arxij • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
*correct link boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=185083#stage_display
7 jan 2024 16:39 • redeemedmonkeycma • Bug is nog niet gereproduceerd door de ontwikkelaars:
Here's another example.
boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=249834
Top player matched with bottom 3 for rounds 8&9, and with two of them for rounds 6,7,8,9
Perhaps in the interim, you should caution people not to play more rounds of swiss than floor((total registered -1) / (# of opponents per game)). Or caution that there is a live bug with option ""Try to prevent the same players from being opponents twice"
boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=249834
Top player matched with bottom 3 for rounds 8&9, and with two of them for rounds 6,7,8,9
Perhaps in the interim, you should caution people not to play more rounds of swiss than floor((total registered -1) / (# of opponents per game)). Or caution that there is a live bug with option ""Try to prevent the same players from being opponents twice"
Dit rapport aanvullen
Gelieve hier alle informatie toe te voegen die relevant is om deze bug te reproduceren of jouw suggestie te begrijpen:
- Andere tafel ID / zet ID
- Loste F5 het probleem op?
- Kwam het probleem meerdere keren voor? Altijd? Willekeurig?
- Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
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