#18199: "Swiss tournament pairing improvement: color selection (hive, chess)"
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de foutboodschap die je op je scherm ziet, indien van toepassing.
This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
• Leg uit wat je wilde doen, wat je deed en wat er gebeurde
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v81
• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
• Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v81
• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v81
• Wat stond op het scherm toen je geblokkeerd was (Leeg scherm? Een deel van de spelinterface? Foutboodschap?)
This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v81
• Met welk onderdeel van de regels is geen rekening gehouden bij de BGA-versie?
This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
• Is de inbreuk op de spelregels zichtbaar in de spelherhaling? Indien ja, bij welk zetnummer?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v81
• Welke spelactie wilde je uitvoeren?
This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
• Wat probeerde je te doen om deze spelactie te laten optreden?
• Wat gebeurde er toen je dit probeerde te doen (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v81
• In welke fase van het spel deed het probleem zich voor (wat was de huidige spelinstructie)?
This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
• Wat gebeurde toen je deze spelactie probeerde (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v81
• Beschrijf alsjeblieft het probleem met de beeldweergave. Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v81
• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.
This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
• Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v81
• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
This improvement request is for games like hive and chess where the player can be either white or black (or other two colors). Currently, the color for the individual rounds of the tournament is selected 100% randomly which is far from ideal. In Hive it is quite important who plays with white because on a certain level it is considered as a big advantage. Therefore, it should be prevented by the BGA pairing system that someone plays most of his/her games with the same color.
The pairing system in Swiss tournaments should be improved according to the standard Swiss-tournament rules, described for example here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament
Main point (cited from wiki): "In chess, the pairing rules try to ensure that each player plays an equal number of games with white and black, alternate colors in each round being the most preferable, and a particular effort is made to not assign a player the same color three times consecutively."
For example: For the first round random colors are selected. Let's say that I play with white. In the second round, I should play with black. In the third round again with white, and so on.
However, the color is not the main criteria based on which the pairing should work. The number of points is the main criteria (it already works like this). Therefore, it can occur that there are only two players with the same number of points who haven't played against each other yet AND both of them played with the same color in the previous round. In this case it is allowed to play with the same color in 2 consecutive rounds.
Similar conflict: there are 4 people with the same number of points and 3 of them played with white in the previous round. Solution: again, it is allowed in this case to select the same color for the next round for one of those 3 people.
Recommendation: It would be the best if the BGA swiss pairing system would follow most of the general rules which are defined by the Internation Chess Federation (FIDE): handbook.fide.com/chapter/C0401
Please, could you implement this improvement for the Hive community? :)
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v81
Rapportgeschiedenis
boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=38119
For example, in this tournament Frasco has all 4 games as white and pcapella has all 4 games black boardgamearena.com/tournament?id=106569
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=32483
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=32713
boardgamearena.com/bug?id=72619
Dit rapport aanvullen
- Andere tafel ID / zet ID
- Loste F5 het probleem op?
- Kwam het probleem meerdere keren voor? Altijd? Willekeurig?
- Als je een schermafbeelding van deze bug hebt (goede gewoonte), kun je Imgur.com gebruiken om deze te uploaden, de link kopiëren en hier plakken.