#160966: "Equal turns option doesn't count all goals completed"
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de foutboodschap die je op je scherm ziet, indien van toepassing.
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. -
• Leg uit wat je wilde doen, wat je deed en wat er gebeurde
End of game scoring: Score totals should be 23 for one player, 22 for the other (not 22-22)
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v133
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v133
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• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v133
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• Wat stond op het scherm toen je geblokkeerd was (Leeg scherm? Een deel van de spelinterface? Foutboodschap?)
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v133
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• Met welk onderdeel van de regels is geen rekening gehouden bij de BGA-versie?
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. -
• Is de inbreuk op de spelregels zichtbaar in de spelherhaling? Indien ja, bij welk zetnummer?
End of game scoring: Score totals should be 23 for one player, 22 for the other (not 22-22)
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v133
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• Welke spelactie wilde je uitvoeren?
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. -
• Wat probeerde je te doen om deze spelactie te laten optreden?
End of game scoring: Score totals should be 23 for one player, 22 for the other (not 22-22)
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• Wat gebeurde er toen je dit probeerde te doen (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v133
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• In welke fase van het spel deed het probleem zich voor (wat was de huidige spelinstructie)?
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. -
• Wat gebeurde toen je deze spelactie probeerde (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
End of game scoring: Score totals should be 23 for one player, 22 for the other (not 22-22)
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v133
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• Beschrijf alsjeblieft het probleem met de beeldweergave. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v133
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v133
-
• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
I've already submitted this as a comment within boardgamearena.com/bug?id=139314, but since that record has been marked "implemented", I believe the following was missed. I've marked this new report as not following the rules because I think the equal turns option should ONLY be implemented if it also takes the following into account:
I'd like to suggest another adjustment to the "Equal Turns" rule:
Determine the outcome (i.e the winner and rank of other players) based on the number of objectives that each player has completed after everyone has placed the same number of tiles (regardless of how many tokens are being used in the game). Without this adjustment, players can tie even when one or more of them could have played additional tokens (if they'd had them).
Here's an example: imgur.com/a/qwLrTOL
(from boardgamearena.com/table?table=610766824)
With the physical game, I would use some other token (coins, or an unused color token) to cover additional completed objectives on the tiles. It is not unusual for physical copies of games to allow for token substitutions. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v133
Rapportgeschiedenis
I had proposed to use the equal turns option for this season’s Arena format. It garnered the most votes, but wasn’t allowed due to its beta status. Therefore, please ensure to change the status once the option is working as intended.
I’m sure most competitive players would appreciate a level playing field.
I checked the Log of that Game boardgamearena.com/table?table=657747195
There you was the start player and your opponent got the last turn. So everyone had an equal amount.
I wanted to clarify that the suggestion I made above is essentially just applying a tiebreaker to any scenario where it isn't appropriate for players share a win.
Maybe Uwe Rosenberg himself should weigh in on this? Playing Framework with equal turns introduces new issues that weren't relevant with the original game design.
As the non-starting player, I had an extra turn, and proceeded to cover all 22 goals, but my opponent won the tiebreaker because they could have covered one more goal on their turn.
Thanks vurtan! :D
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- Andere tafel ID / zet ID
- Loste F5 het probleem op?
- Kwam het probleem meerdere keren voor? Altijd? Willekeurig?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
