#127847: "Simultaneous Actions"
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Gedetailleerde beschrijving
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de foutboodschap die je op je scherm ziet, indien van toepassing.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Leg uit wat je wilde doen, wat je deed en wat er gebeurde
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v126
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v126
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• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v126
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• Wat stond op het scherm toen je geblokkeerd was (Leeg scherm? Een deel van de spelinterface? Foutboodschap?)
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v126
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• Met welk onderdeel van de regels is geen rekening gehouden bij de BGA-versie?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Is de inbreuk op de spelregels zichtbaar in de spelherhaling? Indien ja, bij welk zetnummer?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v126
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• Welke spelactie wilde je uitvoeren?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Wat probeerde je te doen om deze spelactie te laten optreden?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
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• Wat gebeurde er toen je dit probeerde te doen (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v126
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• In welke fase van het spel deed het probleem zich voor (wat was de huidige spelinstructie)?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
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• Wat gebeurde toen je deze spelactie probeerde (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
If I read "Lumberjack2022 places projects Tools and Tribe on left side, Writing and Masonry on right side", I can change my mind before placing my projects as I got these informations.
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v126
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• Beschrijf alsjeblieft het probleem met de beeldweergave. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v126
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here. Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v126
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• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
As Actions are simultaneous, I shouldn't be able to see what action has been made by other players who have already validated their action before I did mine
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v126
Rapportgeschiedenis
This is mostly critical for phase A and E, but could apply to all phases to avoid edge cases (mostly related to trying to get first place in military power)
imgur.com/YespSae
This is round 9 and in the screenshot, I can see what my opponent has chosen for his techs before I had to choose mine. As a result, I can estimate what his military strength will be and tailor mine accordingly. (I can increase my military but that costs me points in other areas so I want to do it only if gets me the crucial military points needed for bigger gain).
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My take on this:
The example shows that waiting for the other players to play is a serious advantage in some situations and this can be really detrimental to fairness and or speed of play, especially in turn-based mode.
I know that it is likely very difficult to change at this stage but it would be very beneficial to do so.
On the other hand, we should see what tech cards everyone has when they are not (seen as) placed.
The best, IMO, for phase A would be as follow:
- Display which techs are owned by everyone but not where they are placed
- Once a player has placed their techs, let them change their mind as long as the game is still waiting for someone (it's annoying to realize you made a mistake or a sub-optimal play but be unable to change while waiting potentially for 2 days for someone else to play...)
- Once everyone is done, reveal where everyone has placed their techs.
Many games with simultaneous turns do function like this.
I also think this is really the way the game is intended to be played IRL so this might actually be seen as a bug even though there is no explicit rule about peeking in the rulebook
Forum discussion:
boardgamearena.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=38358
This bug appears in _every_ game. The higher the ELO of players, the more critical it becomes.
Dit rapport aanvullen
- Andere tafel ID / zet ID
- Loste F5 het probleem op?
- Kwam het probleem meerdere keren voor? Altijd? Willekeurig?
- If you have a screenshot of this bug (good practice), you can use a picture hosting service of your choice (snipboard.io for example) to upload it and copy/paste the link here.
