#106382: "Skipping a player out of time is heavily exploitable by players that are losing in tournaments"
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de foutboodschap die je op je scherm ziet, indien van toepassing.
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. -
• Leg uit wat je wilde doen, wat je deed en wat er gebeurde
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v119
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een screenshot van deze bug hebt (aan te raden), kun je een afbeeldingshostingsdienst naar keuze gebruiken (bijvoorbeeld snipboard.io) om deze te uploaden en hier de link te plakken. Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v119
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• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v119
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• Wat stond op het scherm toen je geblokkeerd was (Leeg scherm? Een deel van de spelinterface? Foutboodschap?)
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v119
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• Met welk onderdeel van de regels is geen rekening gehouden bij de BGA-versie?
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. -
• Is de inbreuk op de spelregels zichtbaar in de spelherhaling? Indien ja, bij welk zetnummer?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v119
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• Welke spelactie wilde je uitvoeren?
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. -
• Wat probeerde je te doen om deze spelactie te laten optreden?
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• Wat gebeurde er toen je dit probeerde te doen (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v119
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• In welke fase van het spel deed het probleem zich voor (wat was de huidige spelinstructie)?
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. -
• Wat gebeurde toen je deze spelactie probeerde (foutboodschap, melding op de statusbalk van het spel, ...)?
• Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v119
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• Beschrijf alsjeblieft het probleem met de beeldweergave. Als je een screenshot van deze bug hebt (aan te raden), kun je een afbeeldingshostingsdienst naar keuze gebruiken (bijvoorbeeld snipboard.io) om deze te uploaden en hier de link te plakken.
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v119
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• Kopieer en plak alsjeblieft de tekst die in het Engels wordt getoond in plaats van in jouw taal. Als je een screenshot van deze bug hebt (aan te raden), kun je een afbeeldingshostingsdienst naar keuze gebruiken (bijvoorbeeld snipboard.io) om deze te uploaden en hier de link te plakken. Is deze tekst beschikbaar in het vertaalsysteem? Zo ja, is deze meer dan 24 uur geleden vertaald?
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v119
-
• Gelieve jouw suggestie precies en beknopt uit te leggen zodat het zo makkelijk mogelijk is om te begrijpen wat je bedoelt.
Ideally all players play quickly and don't run out of time. If that is the case, this issue doesn't matter. However the reality is some players are slow and run out of time, even though they are playing and the table still has tons of time left overall to finish the game.
In this case, due to how placement is handled when a player is skipped, losing players can choose to skip them which means:
In Group/Swiss:
- score more points than they would have while reducing the points the leading players would receive.
In knockout:
- qualify for the next stage of the tournament if their account age is oldest
Suggestion is to do one of the following (lower is okay but can still be exploited, top is best):
1. Don't end the game when a player is skipped. Let it play out and use the final placement to resolve the outcome
2. End the game when a player is skipped. Use placement at the start of the most recent turn to resolve outcome
3. End the game when a player is skipped. Use current game state to resolve the outcome
4. Keep as is. Players can exploit and continue to ruin tournaments. • Welke browser gebruik je?
Google Chrome v119
Rapportgeschiedenis
Started a real time game. As soon as we did, Joshua got off to a bad start, and claimed that he got a phone call from work and could we please please please switch to turn-based.
That was a week ago, the game is still going and Joshua has been late every single time by hours. Sometimes days. Probably cost us all 4 days if you added up all his late time.
I am three moves from an easy victory, so it would cost me win points if the game ended now.
I agree with suggestion 1: Let the game play out without that player. Perhaps turn him into a passive drone car to complete the race, so that a losing player can't disqualify a winning player.
It already happened months ago. The race does now complete without that player. See the Heat wall here: boardgamearena.com/group?id=14686320.
Dit rapport aanvullen
- Andere tafel ID / zet ID
- Loste F5 het probleem op?
- Kwam het probleem meerdere keren voor? Altijd? Willekeurig?
- Als je een screenshot van deze bug hebt (aan te raden), kun je een afbeeldingshostingsdienst naar keuze gebruiken (bijvoorbeeld snipboard.io) om deze te uploaden en hier de link te plakken.
